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concern and there have been many reports and plenty of speculation about who might be helping north cia korea in their technology. of course it is almost impossible to get information out of north korea. it is an incredibly isolated, closed regime. the information officially we get from that country is through its state-run media. so nothing gets out of north korea unless it is choreographed through k cna, the state-run news agency and the state-run television and it is highly choreographed and many would say propaganda. what we hear from north korea is what north korea wants the world to hear. it is very difficult to get an indication on that. here in seoul, one senior government official told me they are concerned, even with failure that north korea carrying out with rocket launches they are still learning. they are learning from mistake and can get better. this is a trial and era for north korea. the more they do, even if they are failures in the yeas of the international community they are still learning from them. >> paula hancocks reporting live in south korea. we have this just i
concern and there have been many reports and plenty of speculation about who might be helping north cia korea in their technology. of course it is almost impossible to get information out of north korea. it is an incredibly isolated, closed regime. the information officially we get from that country is through its state-run media. so nothing gets out of north korea unless it is choreographed through k cna, the state-run news agency and the state-run television and it is highly choreographed and...
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national security contributor, fran townsend, is a member of the cia. cedrick layton member of the joipt staff. what are those consequences? is the u.s. going to passing the point of no return here? >> well, it is, look, the most recent information suggests they're preparing to be able to launch these warheads containing gas and other chemical weapons. that's a problem because now, a military strike could trigger the dissemination of such weapons. what you have to do now is is get the timely tactical intelligence to interrupt the decision cycle. that is get between assad and the individual who presses the button to launch that missile. that's a very ask, very difficult, but now, that's the position we're really in. >> just to be honest, hasn't really seemed to be at least totally aware of everything happening every step of the way here. >> okay, except there was a wmd commission that looked at the failures in iraq and strengthened the committee. there are standards for assessing the credibility of sources. for how an analyst assesses a source and the in
national security contributor, fran townsend, is a member of the cia. cedrick layton member of the joipt staff. what are those consequences? is the u.s. going to passing the point of no return here? >> well, it is, look, the most recent information suggests they're preparing to be able to launch these warheads containing gas and other chemical weapons. that's a problem because now, a military strike could trigger the dissemination of such weapons. what you have to do now is is get the...
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the cia analyst is said to be in her 30s. she served in pakistan. by many accounts, she was instrumental in finding where osama bin laden was hiding. >> everybody describes her as a very headstrong and even combative personality at times. >> reporter: "washington post" reporter greg miller says the cia targeting expert who found bin laden has become a target herself. >> she has rankled colleagues in scuffles over credit for the operation. >> reporter: former navy s.e.a.l. matt, who was part of the raid, described her in a "60 minutes" interview. >> i can't give her enough credit. in my opinion, she kind of teed up this whole thing and just wicked smart, kind of feisty. >> reporter: miller says the analyst received a cash bonus for her work but still felt slighted. >> she got a more prestigious award than most but nevertheless was put out basically that others were included on the list. >> reporter: the cia insists no single person found bin laden, telling cnn quote, hundreds of analysts, operators and many others played key roles in the hunt. but th
the cia analyst is said to be in her 30s. she served in pakistan. by many accounts, she was instrumental in finding where osama bin laden was hiding. >> everybody describes her as a very headstrong and even combative personality at times. >> reporter: "washington post" reporter greg miller says the cia targeting expert who found bin laden has become a target herself. >> she has rankled colleagues in scuffles over credit for the operation. >> reporter: former...
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there's a long-standing relationship with hollywood and the cia and the u.s. military but you know, since 9/11, this has been a very sexy thing, the navy s.e.a.l.s, the commandoes, cia agents. everybody likes to watch this kind of movie and the real question here, is did it get out of hand, did the government just let them have too much access. >> and get too wrapped up. what about the members of s.e.a.l. team six? obviously you have one member who came out -- >> he wrote a book. >> now we know who he is. he wrote a book in violation, supposedly. >> these guys are sworn to secrecy and their own commanders have been cracking down saying to all of them keep your mouth shut. you sign an oath of secrecy, you must obey it. and they have concerns that it's just, again, too much information. this was supposed to be one of the most secret operations in the history of the united states. we all seem to know an awful lot about it. >> we do. so what is going to be the outcome here? because it seems that because the operation was so significant, you don't want to set a pre
there's a long-standing relationship with hollywood and the cia and the u.s. military but you know, since 9/11, this has been a very sexy thing, the navy s.e.a.l.s, the commandoes, cia agents. everybody likes to watch this kind of movie and the real question here, is did it get out of hand, did the government just let them have too much access. >> and get too wrapped up. what about the members of s.e.a.l. team six? obviously you have one member who came out -- >> he wrote a book....
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got access to cia operatives, cia locations, that they had access to navy s.e.a.l.s which they should not have had. and i can't really go beyond that other than to say that now, this investigation has gone on and it's been expanded. >> reporter: bowe says he and bigelow were very aware of national security concerns. >> we're acutely aware that there are sensitivities around this material, and i think we approached this with a lot of respect for those sensitivities. >> pretty -- i really want to see this movie. it does raise a legitimate concern about how much cooperation there is between the cia, between hollywood, between the military. >> it does. there's a long-standing relationship with hollywood and the cia and the u.s. military but you know, since 9/11, this has been a very sexy thing, the navy s.e.a.l.s, the commandoes, cia agents. everybody likes to watch this kind of movie and the real question here, is did it get out of hand, did the government just let them have too much access. >> and get too wrapped up. what about the members of s.e.a.l. team six? obviously you have one me
got access to cia operatives, cia locations, that they had access to navy s.e.a.l.s which they should not have had. and i can't really go beyond that other than to say that now, this investigation has gone on and it's been expanded. >> reporter: bowe says he and bigelow were very aware of national security concerns. >> we're acutely aware that there are sensitivities around this material, and i think we approached this with a lot of respect for those sensitivities. >> pretty...
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pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins me now, along with cnn contributor and former cia officer bob baer and on the phone, cnn international contributor, fran townsend. barbara, i know you're working to confirm this nbc report. how much would this change the situation? if u.s. military is going to act to prevent assad from gassing his own people, it would seem, if they loaded this stuff into weapons, the time to do it would be at hand. >> well, right now i can tell you, anderson, if this turns out to be true, even if not, the u.s. military, the cia in a full-blown effort to collect every piece of intelligence they can about what is going on with the chemical weapons and develop a targeting strategy if it were to come to that. so, what are we talking about here, anderson? they have to put together targeting options for the president. that involves the latest intelligence. where are the chemical weapons in syria? what would you do to attack them? what kind of u.s. bomber aircraft would you use? do you know precisely where they are? how will you get that bomber aircraft past syrian
pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins me now, along with cnn contributor and former cia officer bob baer and on the phone, cnn international contributor, fran townsend. barbara, i know you're working to confirm this nbc report. how much would this change the situation? if u.s. military is going to act to prevent assad from gassing his own people, it would seem, if they loaded this stuff into weapons, the time to do it would be at hand. >> well, right now i can tell you, anderson, if...
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we have a picture from former cia operative bob baer here to show you. this is showing you what the single impact of saren gas would be if it were launched on the western city of homs in syria. a large swath of the city would be impacted by a single shell. it's estimated 18,000 people would be killed in a day. let's get straight to cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara, what have you learned tonight? >> well, you know, as tragic and serious as this is for the people of syria, this now has regional implications throughout the middle east. intelligence services from israel, turkey, jordan, lebanon, all the countries surrounding syria are now talking with the united states around the clock about this very scenario. because if there were to be, god forbid, a chemical attack, the concern is some of that could drift across boreder ed. worse, even as tragic as that would be, what if the regime collapses, terrorists move in, insurgent groups move in and grab some chemical material. they could take it across the borders into the neighbors countries an
we have a picture from former cia operative bob baer here to show you. this is showing you what the single impact of saren gas would be if it were launched on the western city of homs in syria. a large swath of the city would be impacted by a single shell. it's estimated 18,000 people would be killed in a day. let's get straight to cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara, what have you learned tonight? >> well, you know, as tragic and serious as this is for the people of syria,...
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people got access to cia operatives, to cia locations, that they had access to the navy s.e.a.l.s which they should not have had. i can't go beyond that to say other than this investigation has gone on and been expanded. >> reporter: he says he and big ga lo were aware of national concerns. >> we're akultsly aware that there are sensitivities around this material. and i think we approached this with a lot of respect for those sensitives. -- sensitivities. >> reporter: congressman clear makes clear the movie makers are free to do as they wish. his concern is whether the government is getting too close to hollywood at the risk of the nation's secrets. barbara starr, cnn, new york. >> so interesting. >> makes me want to watch it. >> an olympian, bobsledder and also blind at one point. up next we asked steven holcomb about the best advice he ever received. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get w
people got access to cia operatives, to cia locations, that they had access to the navy s.e.a.l.s which they should not have had. i can't go beyond that to say other than this investigation has gone on and been expanded. >> reporter: he says he and big ga lo were aware of national concerns. >> we're akultsly aware that there are sensitivities around this material. and i think we approached this with a lot of respect for those sensitives. -- sensitivities. >> reporter:...
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>> reporter: fox news has learned that the cia as well as other intelligence agencies have been working with libyan militias after it was claimed qaddafi's program was not shut do i know idown in 2004. u.s. officials are insisted there's quote, no quid pro quo on the search, including the movement of weapons. tonight the cia had no public comment on fox's reporting. >> shepard: thanks very much. >>> an enormously popular mexican american singer and reality star now confirmed dead after a plane crash. investigators say jenni rivera was among the passengers on a private leer jet that slammed into the ground shortly after taking off in northern mexico. rivera's brother said there's almost nothing left of that plane. >> the plane is totaled. nobody inside survived. the bodies are unrecognizable according to what they're telling us. monterey officials are saying that they need at least a couple of time, a couple of days to be able to bring the bodies from the wilderness. it's out in the middle of nowhere. >> shepard: somebody took a photo of what appears to be jenni rivera's driver's license
>> reporter: fox news has learned that the cia as well as other intelligence agencies have been working with libyan militias after it was claimed qaddafi's program was not shut do i know idown in 2004. u.s. officials are insisted there's quote, no quid pro quo on the search, including the movement of weapons. tonight the cia had no public comment on fox's reporting. >> shepard: thanks very much. >>> an enormously popular mexican american singer and reality star now...
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phillip mudd, a former cia and fbi counterterrorism official, says there's a huge concern over who to trust with chemical weapons. >> when you've got roughly 10% of the opposition in the. >>>s u.s. government is declaring are terrorist group you're going to be concerned. in any case like this, there's a lot of risk. >> reporter: but mudd says it's still better to train the rebels on how to handle those materials than to do nothing. and leonard specter says the u.s. and its allies are likely screening the individuals who are being trained very carefully, wofrl, at least that's the hope. >> despite all that, there's still a potential for these chemical weapons getting into the wrong hands. despite what the u.s. is trying to do. >> reporter: phillip mudd says if the syrian regime loses control of these weapons, that's a huge worry. if they fall into the hands of others who are not trusted by the u.s. or its allies they could float around the border to iraq or other potentially dangerous places where they don't have control over these things. if assad loses control of these things anytime
phillip mudd, a former cia and fbi counterterrorism official, says there's a huge concern over who to trust with chemical weapons. >> when you've got roughly 10% of the opposition in the. >>>s u.s. government is declaring are terrorist group you're going to be concerned. in any case like this, there's a lot of risk. >> reporter: but mudd says it's still better to train the rebels on how to handle those materials than to do nothing. and leonard specter says the u.s. and its...
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cnn national security contributor fran townsend, a member of the external advisory committees to the cia and department of homeland security. general marks, let me start with you. what are the military options at this stage right now? realistically, what could the use, nato, the international community militarily do if there is an indication that the syrian military's about to use chemical weapons against its own people. >> wolf, that's the key point. in advance of its use what can the u.s. do? and it's clearly having a very robust, very broad intelligence collection apparatus that takes into account all means of collection, technical as well as human intelligence. there are known sites where the chemical weapons are stockpiled, where the production sites are. then there has to be an act to marry those up with the distribution or delivery means. >> a missile. >> a missile, artillery shell, put into a bomb then uploaded under the wings of an aircraft. all those are indicators of what might occur. intelligence has to be very, very robust in order to go after that. then, if it is such that
cnn national security contributor fran townsend, a member of the external advisory committees to the cia and department of homeland security. general marks, let me start with you. what are the military options at this stage right now? realistically, what could the use, nato, the international community militarily do if there is an indication that the syrian military's about to use chemical weapons against its own people. >> wolf, that's the key point. in advance of its use what can the...
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so there are some republicans who might challenge him. >> the cia director, too. so i wouldn't necessarily rule that out. >> there is. >> and what about susan rice? >> that is, of course, the big question. my sources say, the president is still very close to her. a huge susan rice fan, as someone said to me. but this source also said the longer she hangs out there the harder it is. of course, last week was not a great week for her. as you recall, she went to the hill to try to asage republican concerns and mf them came out of that lessen thenthusiast. the president is the one who makes these decisions and he's a huge fan of susan rice. >> well, we'll see what he does. >> and don't forget, in the top four cabinet posts, susan rice is a woman. and i think there's a real sense of diversity in that they'dke to see a woman in one of the top four jobs. >> there should be a woman in the top four jobs. >> secretary of state is a woman. so we'll see about that. >> thank you very much. >>> now arrested, we have details of the surprising charges and a shocking past. .4 [ wom
so there are some republicans who might challenge him. >> the cia director, too. so i wouldn't necessarily rule that out. >> there is. >> and what about susan rice? >> that is, of course, the big question. my sources say, the president is still very close to her. a huge susan rice fan, as someone said to me. but this source also said the longer she hangs out there the harder it is. of course, last week was not a great week for her. as you recall, she went to the hill to...
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they are left with many questions about who changed the cia talking point which originally represents al qaeda. the revised talking points were used by susan rice who blamed the terror attack on an anti islam video. >> we will see who president obama will nominate for his cabinet. national security nominees are expected to be nominated first. hagel could get the nod for defense secretary. who will replace hillary clinton as secretary of state? lawmakers outraged over reports it could be ambassador susan rice. john kerry also a possibility. >> kate middleton spending her third day in the hospital after suffering an extreme form of morning sickness. >> prince william was 6 hours by her side. he seemed relaxed and even crack add smile. she may have to be hospitalized for several another days from severe nausea. we will have a live report from london. >> christmas came last night to washington with the lighting of the capital christmas tree. >> 3, 2 rn, 1. >> over 10,000 lights covered the 65 foot tree called in from colorado, by the way. house speaker john boehner led the holiday ceremon
they are left with many questions about who changed the cia talking point which originally represents al qaeda. the revised talking points were used by susan rice who blamed the terror attack on an anti islam video. >> we will see who president obama will nominate for his cabinet. national security nominees are expected to be nominated first. hagel could get the nod for defense secretary. who will replace hillary clinton as secretary of state? lawmakers outraged over reports it could be...
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you served in iran, going difficult shu, worked for the cia. your thoughts on whether assad would use chemical weapons against the syrian people and whether there is any way to stop it for the united states. >> first of all i don't think that the fact he mixed the chemicals is necessarily an indication he intend to use them. i think if he is cornered and he has no option left, it's possible that he will. the key is finding someone to give him asylum. so he knows there is a way out of this. ultimately if he has no place to go i think he will use chemical weapons in a desperate effort to save his regime. megyn: thrrts reports he's seeking asylum. this is unconfirmed. is this something we should be rooting for? >> absolutely. i think the best interests of erveg involved is to have him go in that direction. we cannot afford from the policy perspective to see military action result in the difficult any nution of the central government capability of syria. we have to retain the army and government. he should leave. the government should stay and that
you served in iran, going difficult shu, worked for the cia. your thoughts on whether assad would use chemical weapons against the syrian people and whether there is any way to stop it for the united states. >> first of all i don't think that the fact he mixed the chemicals is necessarily an indication he intend to use them. i think if he is cornered and he has no option left, it's possible that he will. the key is finding someone to give him asylum. so he knows there is a way out of...
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national security contributor fran townsend is a member of the cia and homeland security external advisory board and colonel cedric layton is a member of the staffs. what are the consequences? is the u.s. going to passing the point of no return here? >> it is. the most recent information suggests they're actually preparing to be able to launch these warheads containing sarin gas and other chemical weapons. that's a problem, right? now a military strike could inadvertently trigger the dissemination of such weapons, what you have to do is get the intelligence to interrupt the decision cycle. get between assad and the individual who presses the button to launch that missile. that's a very big ask from the intelligence community and very difficult. that's the positive we're really in. >> the intelligence community which to be honest hasn't really seemed to be at least, you know, totally aaware of everything happening every step of the way here. >> okay, except there's been -- there was a commission that looked at the failures in iraq and strengthened the intelligence community. there are stand
national security contributor fran townsend is a member of the cia and homeland security external advisory board and colonel cedric layton is a member of the staffs. what are the consequences? is the u.s. going to passing the point of no return here? >> it is. the most recent information suggests they're actually preparing to be able to launch these warheads containing sarin gas and other chemical weapons. that's a problem, right? now a military strike could inadvertently trigger the...
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"outfront" tonight, national security contributor fran townsend who is on the cia and homeland security external advisory board and noah shachtman. noah, what do we think is going on right now? at what point are they in this process? >> so the assad regime has hundreds of metric tons of the building blocks of sarin. basically two big building blocks. there's isopropanol which is rubbing alcohol and phosphorous compounds. those are kept separately in order to keep things safe. but the assad regime in small, limited quantities appears to have combined those two chemicals to make deadly sarin nerve agent and has loaded them on to aerial bombs. >> if that is true, fran, it's a very provocative thing. is it provocative enough that the u.s. now has to consider action? >> well, you know, the administration has not made it clear. what the president has said is that the use of such weapons would be a red line for the united states and her allies. but it's not clear, short of use, is this preparation, is the mixing of the precursor chemicals enough? as noah can tell you this is a very unstable su
"outfront" tonight, national security contributor fran townsend who is on the cia and homeland security external advisory board and noah shachtman. noah, what do we think is going on right now? at what point are they in this process? >> so the assad regime has hundreds of metric tons of the building blocks of sarin. basically two big building blocks. there's isopropanol which is rubbing alcohol and phosphorous compounds. those are kept separately in order to keep things safe....
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this year of the cia agent a little more complicated than the hollywood spy version portrayal. the post says she was actually passed over for a poe motion shortly after the mission that killed bin laden. also it says she took heat for ties to filmmakers and there was jealousy over her fame and that led to internal friction within the agency. the post says after being given a prestigious award for her work this agent sent an e-mail to dozens of others saying they didn't deserve to share in the accolades. >> not good. >> not getting along very well inside the cia, apparently. >> in the a smart move either. >>> for an expanded look at all of our top stories, head to cnn.com/earlystart. also follow us on twitter and on facebook. just search for early start cnn. >> it's made of steel but it's not a steal by any means. the gift card craze that has some coffee lovers paying way more than face value. look! over time, cascade complete pacs fight film buildup two times better than finish quantum to help leave glasses sparkling. cascade. the clear choice. but when i was in an accident...
this year of the cia agent a little more complicated than the hollywood spy version portrayal. the post says she was actually passed over for a poe motion shortly after the mission that killed bin laden. also it says she took heat for ties to filmmakers and there was jealousy over her fame and that led to internal friction within the agency. the post says after being given a prestigious award for her work this agent sent an e-mail to dozens of others saying they didn't deserve to share in the...
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he said he was interviewed by the cia when he left syria. now he's pleading for money and weapons from the u.s. so he can lead a brigade of fighters back into syria to secure those sites. alex marquardt, abc news, on the turkey-syria border. >> the major general gave an interview back in september. so several weeks back and says during his time there, we were in a serious discussion about the use of chemical weapons, including how we would use them and in what areas. we discussed this as a last resort. such as if the regime lost control of important areas such as aleppo. so not that we have them, but details have been discussed. >> he's the second in charge. he says that assad's forces are already spraying pesticides and dropping white phosphorous. claims that were also made by the opposition. but the reason the whole world should be concerned about this is because if it gets into the wrong hands, these chemical weapons are so easily transportable. you're thinking hezbollah could get them in their hands and anybody that's friendly with syria
he said he was interviewed by the cia when he left syria. now he's pleading for money and weapons from the u.s. so he can lead a brigade of fighters back into syria to secure those sites. alex marquardt, abc news, on the turkey-syria border. >> the major general gave an interview back in september. so several weeks back and says during his time there, we were in a serious discussion about the use of chemical weapons, including how we would use them and in what areas. we discussed this as...
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now, last night, a former cia officer, robert bear, was speaking to anderson cooper. he described what the use of sarin could do. here's more of what he had to say. >> one round and the dispersion on that could be -- depends on the wind -- but you could take out, let's say a city like homs, you could take out a third of the city in the first couple of hours. anderson, this is a highly toxic liquid. it's a persistent agent. it's absolutely completely deadly. >> reporter: now, we've heard repeatedly from u.s. administration officials, u.s. president barack obama, u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton that the use of chemical weapons in syria was a red line for which syria and the bashar al assad regime would face severe consequences if they ever did cross that red line and utilize chemical weapons against the people of syria. >> and we have no idea what those severe consequences would be, right? >> reporter: that's right, we don't. you know, people speculate that this would mean some type of military intervention, but we also know that a lot of world powers have not w
now, last night, a former cia officer, robert bear, was speaking to anderson cooper. he described what the use of sarin could do. here's more of what he had to say. >> one round and the dispersion on that could be -- depends on the wind -- but you could take out, let's say a city like homs, you could take out a third of the city in the first couple of hours. anderson, this is a highly toxic liquid. it's a persistent agent. it's absolutely completely deadly. >> reporter: now, we've...
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he's alleges got the cia slot to fill as well. there are rumors there may be changes on his national security team. but nobody is being very specific about it at this point. >> shira, just the optics of the gop engaged in -- in a days-long filibuster with regards to susan rice, attacking susan rice for days. is that a fight that they want to pick? >> you'd think they wouldn't want to pick this fight, especially when there are other well-qualified people who want to be secretary of state such as john kerry, the senator of massachusetts, has made no secret at all that this is a position he's wanted far really long time. so you think this would not be a battle the white house would pick. but obviously the president has a lot of loyalty to susan rice. his defense of her a couple weeks ago from the podium was really unique and frankly defensive. so if this is who he wants, he has every right to nominate her and the senate has every right to say no. >> david, before i let you guys get out of here, i had katon dawson on a few minutes ago
he's alleges got the cia slot to fill as well. there are rumors there may be changes on his national security team. but nobody is being very specific about it at this point. >> shira, just the optics of the gop engaged in -- in a days-long filibuster with regards to susan rice, attacking susan rice for days. is that a fight that they want to pick? >> you'd think they wouldn't want to pick this fight, especially when there are other well-qualified people who want to be secretary of...